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Why women criticise sexualised character designs |OT2| I have no pants and I must scream (READ OP)

Pandora012

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,035
If someone wants a good vn, utawarerumono is pretty great.

I'm a sucker for otome vn. Still have a large back log with them. Trying to pick between Code Realize and collar x malice.
 

Syril

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,818
999 is the only VN I ever finished and by the end it was really only the escape the room puzzles that kept me going. The author mentioned coming up with the climax first and writing the entire story as an excuse to get to it, and I could tell.
 

Weltall Zero

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,894
Madrid
999 is the only VN I ever finished and by the end it was really only the escape the room puzzles that kept me going. The author mentioned coming up with the climax first and writing the entire story as an excuse to get to it, and I could tell.
I really loved 999 and VLR, even though they are perfect poster children for all the issues mentioned in this thread, mostly concentrated in one character per game (Lotus for 999 and Alice for VLR). Of course, ZTD followed in the shitty tradition, too, on top of being a pretty uninspired game compared to them.
 

Rae

Member
Mar 7, 2019
114
If someone wants a good vn, utawarerumono is pretty great.

I'm a sucker for otome vn. Still have a large back log with them. Trying to pick between Code Realize and collar x malice.
I have to say C:R is still the best otome I've played ever even after all these years. I liked almost all the LI and I adored Cardia. Also, CxM really disappointed me who thought it'd be like Akane (Pyscho-Pass) but it was less interesting and boring.

The C:R fandisks just add side content and not really connected to the full game jic you're wondering what they're about.
 

Hexa

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Oct 25, 2017
2,019
Are there any good otome VNs with a lady protagonist that aren't "pick your boyfriend" or focused on het relationships?
The term otome is generally used similarly to galge and pretty much means pick your boyfriend. In terms of VNs with lady protagonists that aren't romance focused, maybe you're looking for something like fault milestone or Sound of Drop. In terms of non-het relationships I'm not sure. There are a bunch of yuri VNs but I think they're mainly targeted towards guys. I've heard good things about the flowers series but I'm not sure since it's not something I'm all that interested in.
 

esserius

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,768
The term otome is generally used similarly to galge and pretty much means pick your boyfriend. In terms of VNs with lady protagonists that aren't romance focused, maybe you're looking for something like fault milestone or Sound of Drop. In terms of non-het relationships I'm not sure. There are a bunch of yuri VNs but I think they're mainly targeted towards guys. I've heard good things about the flowers series but I'm not sure since it's not something I'm all that interested in.
Yeah, josei would probably be a better genre designator, except even it isn't really strict and often is still romance focused. Overall it seems like even having a language for "woman-targeted" game is something rather foreign even now. And actually I'd say that's the case regardless of whether you're in Japan or America, Europe, or elsewhere. I oftentimes hear that games like Animal Crossing are targeted at women but realistically those seem more androgynous than targeted (i.e., the result of being popular with women are unintentional).
 

Rainy

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Oct 25, 2017
1,896
I got Code Vein on the PSN sale and am enjoying it but....ugh jesus the clothes (can you call them that?) for the female characters are insane in the worst way.
 

Boots

Member
Dec 28, 2017
369
Are there any good otome VNs with a lady protagonist that aren't "pick your boyfriend" or focused on het relationships?
Fatal 12 might be what you're looking for.

I haven't beaten it yet but I'm almost at the end and I've really enjoyed my time with it. It's not really a romance as the game's primarily about the protagonist (Rinka) and her experience being thrust into a game of fate with 11 other strangers (well, mostly strangers). But she does have a potential romance with another female character that's important to the plot, and the game's most bad-ass character (Odette) is also openly bi. Odette might have the only dodgy character design out of the cast, but given her character and the kind of personality she is, she owns it and it doesn't feel out of place on her.


At this time in the game, my biggest criticism involves Rinka's romantic interest (Miharu) and how much of her plot and her motivations are influenced by Rinka. Like, if it was a het pairing, it would have probably annoyed me a lot more. But I guess the novelty of it happening between a same-sex pairing made it more bearable, and Miharu still has some cool moments. Also, the typical obnoxious anime tropes and gags are extremely minimal. There are a handful, but I'm pretty sensitive to that bullshit and none of it got under my skin.

Let me know if you check it out!

P.S: This isn't an otome game in the slightest, so bare that in mind.
 

Wanderer5

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,944
Somewhere.
Another shot of R3make Jill's face.


I think she looks quite nice, and the hairstyle is basically like the original.

Her top was definitely changed, and she doesn't seem to have the jacket wrapped around her.
 

MetalMagus

Avenger
Oct 16, 2018
614
Maine
Outside of a bikini, I can’t think of a more impractical outfit to survive a zombie apocalypse than a tube top and miniskirt. Like, Jill would be falling out of her outfit every 10 minutes, struggling to swing her legs over fences, running awkwardly away from Nemesis... the RE3 design was always dumb.
 

SofNascimento

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Oct 28, 2017
5,951
Jill's outfit is one of the few impractical/needessly revealing outfit I will defend, just search for my posts here for my reasoning.

That said, I fully expected them to change it for r3make and the one we got, at the least the top half, is very much in line with what I was expecting. I just want to see her in her full glory asap.
 
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Joe2187

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,858
Buckle in for this one...This one takes the cake for "reasons we designed her"

"We need a dumb stupid, idiot. A real incompetent pilot"




"What about FOUR boobs?"



"THUS A NEW FETISH WAS BORN!"

 

Dice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,529
Canada
Outside of a bikini, I can’t think of a more impractical outfit to survive a zombie apocalypse than a tube top and miniskirt. Like, Jill would be falling out of her outfit every 10 minutes, struggling to swing her legs over fences, running awkwardly away from Nemesis... the RE3 design was always dumb.
I mean you're right it's bad for zombie apocalypse*, but otherwise I thought it was on-trend for the 90s.

*but again we're talking 90s game/character design

People really don't like Jill's Design...s?

I like them both.
 

SapphiCine

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Oct 25, 2017
1,495
What's the problem with modern Tomb Raider? (assuming you mean the latest trilogy)
It's not so much of a
Buckle in for this one...This one takes the cake for "reasons we designed her"

"We need a dumb stupid, idiot. A real incompetent pilot"




"What about FOUR boobs?"



"THUS A NEW FETISH WAS BORN!"

Fucking Inti Creates. I just bought BMZ2 last night, didn't know they added this kind of shit. The first game was fine.