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What morally wrong things do you do?

Grimsey

Member
Nov 1, 2017
263
So if someone is dying on the street and I just walk past and don't help him/her even if I was a qualified doctor I'm free of blame?

Edit: sorry my hands must have stealth deleted your words.
I'm talking about ethics in the ideal, objective sense. In your example, social norms, laws, genetics, environment, context, and many other factors would guide the doctor's actions. The doctor might be convinced after saving the person that they independently took the correct action, but in reality it was the cumulative effect of those factors.

As for quantum theory, I don't know. Are you saying that the laws of physics no longer apply when it comes to the human brain or even in general?
 

Discontent

Member
May 25, 2018
168
I'm talking about ethics in the ideal, objective sense. In your example, social norms, laws, genetics, environment, context, and many other factors would guide the doctor's actions. The doctor might be convinced after saving the person that they independently took the correct action, but in reality it was the cumulative effect of those factors.

As for quantum theory, I don't know. Are you saying that the laws of physics no longer apply when it comes to the human brain or even in general?
Not gonna lie, I don't know about quantum theory so idk what you're asking. I think it was someone else that mentioned quantum theory.

For me, I'm a Muslim and I believe that we are between the two; free will and determinism, that is.
 

Foxashel

Member
Jul 18, 2019
570
We fill our recycling bin every pick-up. Once it becomes full, I start throwing stuff in the trash.
 

Agar25

Member
Apr 12, 2018
5,049
Paying $ for tech and sneakers made for a fraction of the price by people barely afforded a living wage will always make me feel shitty.

Also I love eating meat, going to buy a bunch of top sirloin right now actually. Not once do I think I’m a monster for eating such delicious things.Not once have I gotten a side eye or a morality lecture and I’m in LA vegan / veggie central. I’ve only ever seen anything like that on the Internet, good ol’ Vegan Internet police.
 

Kill3r7

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,061
By ERA standards:
  • Eat too much meat
  • Use too much water
  • Multiple cars
  • Have a Wife and Children
  • Earn money above what has been deemed morally right
  • Own a house
  • Invest funds/401K in the stock market supporting dubious corporations
  • Not opposed to capitalism and benefit from it
  • Aid corporations as part of my job
  • Probably a bunch of other stuff I am ignoring, omitting or being totally oblivious to.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,829
O-H-I-O
I'm a pretty selfish narcissist, thankfully having children (which is also morally wrong here I guess) has at least lowered my selfishness, they come first now.
 

LegendofJoe

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,686
Arkansas, USA
I eat more meat than I'd like to, but as a type I diabetic I can't eat a carbohydrate heavy diet.

I'm also a bit miserly. I won't replace anything until it falls apart. I have clothes that are 20 years old that I still wear.

And coffee, I drink way too much of it.
 

haxan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
796
Depends on the specifics of what you consider morally wrong. The only real moral rule I live by these days is to be mindful of other people and treat them respectfully. That covers the bases for me.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,894
Eat meat
Should probably be more into politics/activism. I feel like its harder when you're out of school.
 

AlteredBeast

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,412
Holy shit. It's not morally wrong to have children.

Goodness gracious, people. You exist because of and to the ends of procreation. I get the carbon footprint problem in a dying world, but conserve and teach your kids to conserve. It's not you having 1 or 2 kids that is killing the planet.

It's incessant and unnecessary intercontinental jet rides, coal-powered electricity, cutting down rainforest for pasture-land, etc.

My moral failings:

1. I lie and exaggerate from time to time to make my life easier.
2. I find certain groups of people repugnant (nazis, and anti-intellectual people of all backgrounds)
3. Sometimes I don't reuse/recycle when it isn't easy or convenient.

That's pretty much it. Other than that, I am happy with myself and consider myself highly moral
 

Monroe Kelly

Member
Oct 28, 2017
46
I regularly pour myself a glass of someone else's lemonade that I found in the break room fridge. Nobody's complained yet.
 

turbobrick

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,294
az
In my mind nothing. Probably.

I do however daily drive a 33 year old car, even though I own a newer car that probably pollutes less.
 

RochHoch

Member
May 22, 2018
5,047
I eat chicken very frequently.

Rarely do I support the official release when it comes to enjoying anime and manga.
 

Discontent

Member
May 25, 2018
168
I speed a lot, but mostly just on straight roads. More to save time than enjoying it. In GTA Libert City Stories! Got you, feds. Or did I?
 

muteKi

Member
Oct 22, 2018
10,554
a sunken pirate ship
That's the other thing, I do eat a fair amount of meat. It's mostly chicken but I do dip into pork regularly and beef on occasion. But most meals have meat in them.
 

m_shortpants

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,436
Holy shit. It's not morally wrong to have children.

Goodness gracious, people. You exist because of and to the ends of procreation. I get the carbon footprint problem in a dying world, but conserve and teach your kids to conserve. It's not you having 1 or 2 kids that is killing the planet.

It's incessant and unnecessary intercontinental jet rides, coal-powered electricity, cutting down rainforest for pasture-land, etc.
Lol I had this same thought reading this thread.
 

umop 3pisdn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,194
I lie and will sometimes ‘borrow’ little things without asking though I haven’t done that in a long time. Oh and I gossip. All pretty vanilla stuff imo.

Oh you mean carbon footprint stuff? I’m a socialist so I don’t have to fret about it so much because the buck ultimately goes to the gross inefficiency of our economic and social system. We can and should try to do better as individuals but that is not actually the battleground that climate action will be fought on.
 

Servbot24

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
20,626
One time I took a hot shower instead of a lukewarm one. I don't know what to say. I just broke down in a moment of weakness. Now I have to live with a cloud of disgrace over my head as our planet deteriorates.

This thread is surreal, lol.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,798
One time I took a hot shower instead of a lukewarm one. I don't know what to say. I just broke down in a moment of weakness. Now I have to live with a cloud of disgrace over my head as our planet deteriorates.

This thread is surreal, lol.
You showered? Why can't you just stand outside in the rain and wash there you wasteful monster
 

DrewFu

Member
Apr 19, 2018
6,967
By ERA standards:
  • Eat too much meat
  • Use too much water
  • Multiple cars
  • Have a Wife and Children
  • Earn money above what has been deemed morally right
  • Own a house
  • Invest funds/401K in the stock market supporting dubious corporations
  • Not opposed to capitalism and benefit from it
  • Aid corporations as part of my job
  • Probably a bunch of other stuff I am ignoring, omitting or being totally oblivious to.
lol I yeah I love this place, but Era is not where I look to for my morals. If we used the Era moral compass, we'd be single, family-less, unshowered vegans, bordering on communists. lol
 
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AlteredBeast

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,412
I will say that I don't think it's in the last bit immoral to hate nazis. I find some of the responses in this thread to be puzzling.
I think hate is unhealthy in all of its forms. I wish I were above the utter detestment I feel in the presence of willfull ignorance and racism. I wish I could be a passionate, unyielding bullhorn espousing equality for all, but instead, they just make my blood boil and I feel nothing but contempt. Nothing gained for anyone there.

I used to be a conservative, after all. If it weren't for years of PoliGAF discussions, I wouldn't have ever truly figured out how disgusting Republicans and their positions of hate are. I would just be another well-meaning, casual ignorant. Not spewing hate, of course, since I was never a bad person, just misled in my politics from an early age.
 

HeavenlyOne

The Fallen
Nov 30, 2017
808
Your heart
I'm not following, people can be murdered too if they fail to comply with societal rules but I don't think most people, at least in this thread, would consider that moral. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. If someone with a severe mental issue commits crime but it's determined they can't be "rehabilitated" (definition left open) then is it moral to punish them instead?
My post was not a moral argument, it was a response to you asking "could we do away with punishment and focus soley on rehabilitation".

The answer is no, because while literally anybody can be punished, but not everyone can be rehabilitated. This isn't my opinion, it's a statement of fact. Right or wrong, innocent or guilty, deserving or not, anyone can be punished, regardless of the morality of the way in which they are punished. Rehabilitation requires a sincere desire for rehabilitation from the individual in question.

We punish people who commit crimes, and attempt to rehabilitate them if possible, not the other way around.
 

Subpar Scrub

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,065
I don’t know. Moral by whose standards? Mine? Probably nothing tbh.


We punish people who commit crimes, and attempt to rehabilitate them if possible, not the other way around.
Sounds like a shitty system tbh. Rehabilitation must be considered before retribution, protection of society, sending a message to society etc in my legal system.


lol I yeah I love this place, but Era is not where I look to for my morals. If we used the Era moral compass, we'd be single, family-less, unshowered vegans, bordering on communists. lol
Be careful with this, I got a formal warning in another thread for “generalising community”, as if that doesn’t happen 5 times a page in any given thread 😂
 

Vimto

Member
Oct 29, 2017
284
What kind of list is that OP?

Having kids is immoral now?

Eating meat? EATING.. MEAT???!!!!!

Driving? Owning multiple cars?

I have all above and don't consider them immoral.