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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19

CampFreddie

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah reposting it doesn't solve the issue at all. Every retweet and link just went dead, so they've effectively killed the virality of it. Hopefully it blows up in their face and gets more eyeballs in it but I doubt it.
I think the original tweet put "the government are not responsible" (or something similar) in quote marks, but it was not a verbatim quote from Patel.
I'm guessing that's what CCHQ objected to, and they found a sympathetic editor to correct it.
I hope the correction SNAFU causes this to Streisand even more though.
 

Garfield

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Oct 31, 2018
1,465
Fuck me, when he brings in life long learning my ass is going back to college to learn how to become a plumber. As I can never find one
 

Principate

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Oct 31, 2017
7,219
Thanks.

Unbelievable they think that fake news is still the way to go after yesterday. Though I suppose they are probably right. No-one seems to care that doesn't already hate them.
This far more in-depth and expensive than what happened during the debate. Was probably organised and ready to go for a while.
 

DavidDesu

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Oct 29, 2017
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Glasgow, Scotland
Bruh if those crimes turn out to be true can you honestly blame me? 14 different accounts, 14.
Many multiple from the same few victims, so it’s not 14 totally separate victims. Hey it might very well be true and he is guilty and that will be a horrible outcome to face. He has already won a case related to this and, I believe how this was all handled initially in which he won that case. The way the allegations were dealt with initially were shown to have been done incorrectly. So my doubtometer is pretty high.


This BBC explainer
What exactly was the problem?
After the formal complaints about Mr Salmond were submitted to the Scottish government, an investigating officer was appointed to the case.
However, both sides now accept that the investigating officer had previously had contact with the complainers. The government's own rules state that there should not have been any prior involvement between the investigator and the complainers.

There was some disagreement between the two parties about the extent of this contact - Mr Salmond's team claim the officer's intervention bordered on "encouragement", while the government insist it was "welfare support and guidance" which was in itself appropriate.
However, the simple fact that contact took place was enough to knock down the process as a whole
 

cabot

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Oct 25, 2017
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Glasgow, Scotland
Many multiple from the same few victims, so it’s not 14 totally separate victims. Hey it might very well be true and he is guilty and that will be a horrible outcome to face. He has already won a case related to this and, I believe how this was all handled initially in which he won that case. The way the allegations were dealt with initially were shown to have been done incorrectly. So my doubtometer is pretty high.


This BBC explainer
same few victims....

Seven different accusers. edit: 10 accusers actually.

The previous case was a failure of process, Salmond cleverly challenged there and won because they fucked the process completely. That was a failure of ScotGov, nothing really to show regarding Salmond being innocent.


I won't really go forward with this because it's not really a part of the election, but you can believe someone is guilty before a trial. Your personal opinion does not equate to criminal courts.
 

Zastava

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Feb 19, 2018
1,385
London

lol if i'm reading this right they're trying to say they'll keep FoM without actually saying they'll keep FoM. I think this is positive but they're gonna get slated for still being ambiguous about this.
 

Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
6,119
Does anyone know what the Labour tax policies are? Specifically wrt to dividends and CGT? - I see a comment that he expects this to bring in £14bn so must be something big.

edit: Have searched the manifesto and can't find anything.
 

Principate

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Oct 31, 2017
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Many multiple from the same few victims, so it’s not 14 totally separate victims. Hey it might very well be true and he is guilty and that will be a horrible outcome to face. He has already won a case related to this and, I believe how this was all handled initially in which he won that case. The way the allegations were dealt with initially were shown to have been done incorrectly. So my doubtometer is pretty high.


This BBC explainer
It's extremely damning as anything regarding sexual assault or harassment is extremely hard to prove so even an innocent verdict doesn't necessarily mean he didn't do it unless there strong contradicting evidence. However the fact it's not just 1 but seven different people is extremely damning.

What on earth have you been doing with your life to have 10 different people accuse you of this? The probability of this man being scum is extremely high.
 

Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
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Specifically this tweet that was on the Guardian liveblog.

Is this accurate figures direct from Labour or has he made them up somehow? If they come from Labour, does anyone know what the dividend/CGT bit refers to?
 

Gareth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Norn Iron

Principate

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Oct 31, 2017
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Harry Dunn's family 'disgusted' with Dominic Raab over legal costs

The parents of Harry Dunn have said they are "disgusted" with Dominic Raab after he defended the government's decision to seek legal costs from them.

The 19-year-old died after a collision in Northamptonshire in August that led to the suspect leaving the UK claiming diplomatic immunity.
 

Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
6,119
Ta - Still trying to find out what 'reversing George Osborne's IHT cuts' means? The main residence nill rate band? Anyone know?

Makes your job simpler I expect :P
It's going to make me busy I suspect. That CGT/Dividend change is fucking huge
 

solidussnaku

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Nov 29, 2017
1,387
Holy shit they are introducing a green new deal and carbon taxes too. With a target to massively cut carbon emissions by 2030.


Ok, this is going to give them a big boost. Maybe not labour minority gov boost, but this can likely be shades of 2017 boost if not more. The vote should rally, and rally hard in the next few weeks.
 

Brotherhood93

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Oct 28, 2017
1,798
Holy shit they are introducing a green new deal and carbon taxes too. With a target to massively cut carbon emissions by 2030.


Ok, this is going to give them a big boost. Maybe not labour minority gov boost, but this can likely be shades of 2017 boost if not more. The vote should rally, and rally hard in the next few weeks.
With this, is there much reason for people to vote Green (except Brighton Pavilion)? I suppose some can't or won't support Corbyn but I always wondered with Labour going big on environmental policies this election why the Greens are currently polling better than they did in 2017.
 

Simon21

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Apr 25, 2018
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Will be very surprised if Sturgeon is as active as she was yesterday given what's going on with Salmond.

As expected I see Labour have retreated from the carbon neutral by 2030 pledge, to being "on track to a net-zero-carbon energy system within the 2030s". Probably makes it the least ambitious target of the progressive parties (just from an initial skim), but certainly more realistic than net zero by 2030.
 

null

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Oct 25, 2017
6,287
what sort of question is that. "some voters, white working class men in particular, don't see you as patriotic. is that fair?". surprised it wasn't asked by a guy in a giant poppy suit.