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The Dragon Ball Z 30th Anniversary collector’s edition Set announced 350$, Nov 2019, 4:3 aspect ratio [UPDATE: Cropped, heavy use of DVNR]

Polioliolio

Member
Nov 6, 2017
2,967
What's wrong with pencil lines and grain? Just leave it. Just take the original video and put it on a disc.

No one wants 200 dollars of garbage. They want the definitive video release.
 

thepenguin55

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,764
Probably an unpopular opinion but I don’t know that I can go back to vanilla DBZ after watching Kai. Seems like a cool package though.
 

thuway

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Oct 27, 2017
2,706
You can't really get much detail from scanning 16mm film passed 2K-ish. A 4K release of DBZ would hardly be of any merit unless it were the movies (which were on 35mm film).
You can get a ton of benefit from the HEVC Codec alone and the HDR can get us closer to the actual color than ever. The 30th Anniversary deserved better
 

Papertoonz

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,178
man Funi still can't release a good home video version of dragon ball can they

if you're gonna charge that amount for it then go the extra mile for good sake
 

ArchedThunder

Uncle Beerus
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,089
Oh for God sake, why do they always manage to screw this up? All I ask is for once this series gets the treatment it actually deserves.

May as well just go out and buy those series sets on Blu Ray.
Cause Funi doesn't want to foot the bill for a proper remaster. With them supposedly teaming up with Toei you'd think the two could co-fund a proper remaster and release it in a ton of markets. It'd certainly make its money back, especially if it wasn't a limited time thing.
But nope, we gotta get terrible release after terrible release. The least Funi could do is release the uncensored remasters of the movies that Toei put on Japanese Netflix, but I guess they just want to make sure they only do bad releases for Z.
 

Bad Vibes Dio

The Fallen
Apr 13, 2018
6,206
This isn't good. Funimation is getting bad PR from the hardcores and this thing is still selling very well. Our voices may very well not mean a damn thing here.

More and more I'm starting to see how much of a blessing the leak of the JP broadcast audio was.
 

Pop-O-Matic

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,366
This isn't good. Funimation is getting bad PR from the hardcores and this thing is still selling very well. Our voices may very well not mean a damn thing here.
Like I was saying earlier, the chances that this was going to fail were slim to none. Dragon Ball is still Dragon Ball, so even with all the discontent about what we've seen so far, there's more than enough suckers out there willing to get this past the 3k mark.
 

Aaron

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Oct 25, 2017
12,131
Probably an unpopular opinion but I don’t know that I can go back to vanilla DBZ after watching Kai. Seems like a cool package though.
Yeah like I bought the set that has every episode and it’s like, being real... I wouldn’t shell out for a Dragon Box-style remaster at this point.

It sucks that Funi is blowing another release but eh.
 

thepenguin55

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Oct 28, 2017
2,764
Yeah like I bought the set that has every episode and it’s like, being real... I wouldn’t shell out for a Dragon Box-style remaster at this point.

It sucks that Funi is blowing another release but eh.
If they put out a visually remastered version of Kai might be on board for that but that’s about it.
 

Zerokoolpsx

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,603
That's a hard sell for $350 and its only 4:3 in Hi-Def. Those pillarboxes and its cropped too. Yeah, pass.
 

SolVanderlyn

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,995
Too bad there's no way to get the Kai soundtrack in any future releases.

Plagiarized? Maybe. Best OST? You bet.
 

Pop-O-Matic

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,366
What is the "leaked" soundtrack?
Fan-made stereo VHS recordings of the original Japanese broadcast audio, as Toei lost the master tapes ages ago and because of that all the home video releases have been relying on low-quality mono optical tracks printed onto the film stock for the Japanese audio.
 

Roge_NES

Member
Feb 18, 2018
318
Shame to read about the video transfers, what's worse is that these video transfers will probably be used again and again for the years to come.
whether it is for future physical releases or streaming, these transfers will be the ones used.

Sadly the only way we will experience DBZ the way we want is whenever TOEI themselves decide to restore and release DBZ on Blu Ray,
followed by a fan ripping the video and adding all audio options.
 

Ginta

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Oct 29, 2017
1,092
Lmao no, more than a $ per ep and a grandista costs like 30$ on its own. Rather watch old 6 hour tapes.
 

andymcc

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Oct 25, 2017
8,893
Columbus, OH
Fan-made stereo VHS recordings of the original Japanese broadcast audio, as Toei lost the master tapes ages ago and because of that all the home video releases have been relying on low-quality mono optical tracks printed onto the film stock for the Japanese audio.
You know, I never read about the specifics but that’s sad af. No wonder my old fansubbed Buu saga broadcast tapes sounded better than the stuff now.
 

Kass15

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Jan 14, 2018
685
I preordered. I’m weak and want the collection. I can’t justify $1,000 for the old sets.
 

VDenter

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Oct 27, 2017
4,655
Man it really sucks how well this seems to be doing. Why are people always so eager to support a clearly crap product? In this case it's even worse than the previous, already horrible BD releases of this series.
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
17,125
Man it really sucks how well this seems to be doing. Why are people always so eager to support a clearly crap product? In this case it's even worse than the previous, already horrible BD releases of this series.
at the end of the day it's still dragon ball z. 3000 sales is a ridiculously low bar.

i hope just reaching the goal doesn't constitute as a success and not too many people are suckered into buying this poor release. but who am i kidding.
 

VDenter

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Oct 27, 2017
4,655
at the end of the day it's still dragon ball z. 3000 sales is a ridiculously low bar.

i hope just reaching the goal doesn't constitute as a success and not too many people are suckered into buying this poor release. but who am i kidding.
It's just frustrating that this keeps happening over and over again. This reaching the goal most likely gives Funimation a clear message that people are willing to buy anything that has DBZ on the box, no matter how crappy it is. At this point i doubt a good and affordable version of the show will ever be made.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,862
United Kingdom
Looking at those screen shots, I think I'll stick with the Funimation remastered dvd's. I'll take the 16:9 widescreen version over that weird new crop.

Maybe one day they will release a new, good version of the original 4:3 version, at a reasonable price.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,125
I'm making a video on this entire controversy and looking back at the whole situation surrounding the launch of the Level sets in 2011.

Over-saturated market doesn't even begin to describe it. Jesus fuck. It feels like they intentionally sabotaged the release. Or they're just insanely incompetent. Impossibly incompetent.
 

VDenter

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,655
I'm making a video on this entire controversy and looking back at the whole situation surrounding the launch of the Level sets in 2011.

Over-saturated market doesn't even begin to describe it. Jesus fuck. It feels like they intentionally sabotaged the release. Or they're just insanely incompetent. Impossibly incompetent.
It's pretty safe to assume that they are doing this on purpose now. Just so they can have something to sell you next time. This really shouldn't be that hard to get right.