Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - crowdfunding campaign and development updates - Kickstarter live now! (Official turn-based support planned)

modestb

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Jan 24, 2019
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Haven't seen a mongrelman since 2E I think?

But I agree, the art/design for him is... not great.

Anyway, I can't tell you how hard I'm going to push for Ratfolk to win the post-KS poll. My girlfriend's favorite Pathfinder character is a Ratfolk witch and letting her play a ratfolk in the game would let me easily convince her to play it.
 

Anoregon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pretty excited for Skald. I'm not familiar with the Pathfinder version specifically, but the overall concept is an archetype that I've always really enjoyed.
 
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Pretty excited for Skald. I'm not familiar with the Pathfinder version specifically, but the overall concept is an archetype that I've always really enjoyed.
Pathfinder Skalds are basically Bards with better combat abilities, including a song that imparts a lesser version of Barbarian rage on the entire party. They lose some of the flexibility of the Bard, but they still have all of its spellcasting. Definitely one of my favorite hybrid classes from the ACG.
 

Shodan14

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Pathfinder Skalds are basically Bards with better combat abilities, including a song that imparts a lesser version of Barbarian rage on the entire party. They lose some of the flexibility of the Bard, but they still have all of its spellcasting. Definitely one of my favorite hybrid classes from the ACG.
They also have knowledge stuff and cast any spell from any class a few times per day.
 

Remmy2112

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Lol, I'd love to see that artist's take on a regular half-elf.
Okay.
That's Octavia from the last game, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, a Rogue/Wizard. Artist was given a description, made rough drafts and showed it to the client, got told any alterations that needed to be made, continued on, showed client, continued on. How the character came out is a small part artistic license and a large part client desire.
 
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Anno

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Ill be the dissenter and say that I think he looks pretty cool. Aren’t these characters mostly pre-defined by Paizo anyway? Or is this one not a part of the adventure module?
 

Anoregon

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I hope someone streams a playthrough as a Skald Lich and basically RP's it as a nordic death metal band frontman.
 

jerfdr

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Funnily enough, no one seems to be able to crack the new hidden goal, while the previous ones have been cracked almost instantly on Discord. It seems that Owlcats are messing with us this time.



The font is Intellecta Roman Tall, if anyone wants to give this a try.

(the last word is probably Owlcat, but, other than that, people on Discord don't seem to have any solid ideas)
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Okay.


That's Octavia from the last game, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, a Rogue/Wizard. Artist was given a description, made rough drafts and showed it to the client, got told any alterations that needed to be made, continued on, showed client, continued on. How the character came out is a small part artistic license and a large part client desire.
Bit of an aside but I'm convinced they used Evangeline Lilly as a reference for Octavia.
 

Shodan14

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Okay.


That's Octavia from the last game, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, a Rogue/Wizard. Artist was given a description, made rough drafts and showed it to the client, got told any alterations that needed to be made, continued on, showed client, continued on. How the character came out is a small part artistic license and a large part client desire.
Why, yes, I've played Kingmaker. That was, in fact, a joke.
 

RPG_Fanatic

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Didn't back the Kingmaker kickstarter, but I decided to back this one. I am excited to see how many stretch and social goals this kickstarter will reach.
 

Buckle

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Should I download the turn based mod for Kingmaker? Does it really change the experience?

I like games like Baldur's Gate and Pillars of Eternity but I would be lying if I said the chaotic and confusing combat were my favorite parts.
 

Arcade55

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I've been debating pledging the 43 dollar bid so i can get the original game as well. It's high on my list as I'm currently enjoying Pillars of Eternity and wanted to try it next.
 

Stygr

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I still have to play/buy the firsr Kingmaker but I backed this project.

My last KS was Wasteland 3 and so far I wasn't disappointed from CRPGs and seeing this one still doing really well despite coming years after the CRPG renaissance it is nice to see.
 

HenryEen

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How is Pathfinder in term of worldbuilding/lore ? It's pretty much one of the most important aspect for RPG for me.

I absolutely love Dragon Age, (recently) Baldur's Gate/Forgotten Realms, Elder Scrolls and Pillars Of Eternity. Divinity series on the other hand I find really weak when it come to worldbuilding/lore (haven't played DOS2 tho).
 

jerfdr

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Should I download the turn based mod for Kingmaker? Does it really change the experience?

I like games like Baldur's Gate and Pillars of Eternity but I would be lying if I said the chaotic and confusing combat were my favorite parts.
It does change the experience quite a bit. You can enable and disable it on the fly whenever you want (even in the middle of a battle; though it might sometimes mess with the turn order if you go from RtwP to TB while in battle, but the other way around is always fine), and it's a very well crafted mod. So you're not losing anything by trying it out.
 
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How is Pathfinder in term of worldbuilding/lore ? It's pretty much one of the most important aspect for RPG for me.

I absolutely love Dragon Age, (recently) Baldur's Gate/Forgotten Realms, Elder Scrolls and Pillars Of Eternity. Divinity series on the other hand I find really weak when it come to worldbuilding/lore (haven't played DOS2 tho).
The Pathfinder house setting of Golarian is very much a "fantasy grab bag" sort of thing, even moreso than something like the Forgotten Realms (which it's heavily influenced by.) I haven't delved too deeply into it beyond skimming their first edition setting guide, but Kingmaker's lore is pretty good for the kind of swashbuckling high fantasy tone it's going for. It even takes a page from Pillars of Eternity and lets you mouse over highlighted proper nouns to get a better explanation of what characters are talking about.
 

Kwigo

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It does change the experience quite a bit. You can enable and disable it on the fly whenever you want (even in the middle of a battle; though it might sometimes mess with the turn order if you go from RtwP to TB while in battle, but the other way around is always fine), and it's a very well crafted mod. So you're not losing anything by trying it out.
Can I get it even though I started playing yesterday ? Or do I need to restart a campaign?
I was honestly quite shocked to see that it's real time battles.
 

HenryEen

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The Pathfinder house setting of Golarian is very much a "fantasy grab bag" sort of thing, even moreso than something like the Forgotten Realms (which it's heavily influenced by.) I haven't delved too deeply into it beyond skimming their first edition setting guide, but Kingmaker's lore is pretty good for the kind of swashbuckling high fantasy tone it's going for. It even takes a page from Pillars of Eternity and lets you mouse over highlighted proper nouns to get a better explanation of what characters are talking about.
Thanks ! Adding Kingmaker to wishlist for now.
 

Vault

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Have they said anything about returning characters?

I hated how many characters came back for POE2
 

AzureSky

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Should I download the turn based mod for Kingmaker? Does it really change the experience?

I like games like Baldur's Gate and Pillars of Eternity but I would be lying if I said the chaotic and confusing combat were my favorite parts.
turn based mod made this game from 7/10 into 10/10 for me. Mostly because i felt the combat was too frantic and easy to lose track of abilities. The mod is easy to use and works surprisingly well.
My hope is that Owlcat thinks about including turn-based combat into the next game as an option.
 
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Remmy2112

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How is Pathfinder in term of worldbuilding/lore ? It's pretty much one of the most important aspect for RPG for me.

I absolutely love Dragon Age, (recently) Baldur's Gate/Forgotten Realms, Elder Scrolls and Pillars Of Eternity. Divinity series on the other hand I find really weak when it come to worldbuilding/lore (haven't played DOS2 tho).
To expand on what ArbitraryWater said, the Pathfinder setting is pretty broad and Kingmaker did a pretty good job with it. You personally interacted with areas that were your direct neighbors through envoys or actually visiting. Nations that were further away but still regionally close were interacted with during the various kingdom events and allowed you to mouse over certain terms and names to get an idea of what they were. I posted a map of the setting on page 3 of this thread and gave a description of the locations immediately adjacent to where Wrath of the Righteous will take place. I expect crusade events will have you interact with the most militarily powerful nations on the continent as the demonic threat becomes apparent and the Fifth Crusade gains momentum. Places like Cheliax, Andoran, Taldor, and more.

Here's a more jokey map of the setting that is still kinda accurate.
Wrath is set in "Really Fucked."
 

HenryEen

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To expand on what ArbitraryWater said, the Pathfinder setting is pretty broad and Kingmaker did a pretty good job with it. You personally interacted with areas that were your direct neighbors through envoys or actually visiting. Nations that were further away but still regionally close were interacted with during the various kingdom events and allowed you to mouse over certain terms and names to get an idea of what they were. I posted a map of the setting on page 3 of this thread and gave a description of the locations immediately adjacent to where Wrath of the Righteous will take place. I expect crusade events will have you interact with the most militarily powerful nations on the continent as the demonic threat becomes apparent and the Fifth Crusade gains momentum. Places like Cheliax, Andoran, Taldor, and more.

Here's a more jokey map of the setting that is still kinda accurate.

Wrath is set in "Really Fucked."
Nice ! Between this (I love when RPG only sets in small part of the world), the kingdom management (someone mentioned PK in Suikoden thread lol), Inon Zur as the composer and cheap price point, will definitely try Kingmaker once I cleared my backlog a bit.