- Oct 25, 2017
Hence Sony's "We won't be complacent" comments. Exciting times for all.
Yep, they even started to gain good market share in europe due to the 1 year advance with the 360, and lost all that goodwill stupidly. Like you said, that was the wrong generation to fuck up. And the fact that the PS3 managed to get even in sales despite the disastrous state shows how incredibly strong the Playstation brand is worldwide despite what many are saying.
You can add that PS4 still $299which is crazy 6 years into this gen.Yea the fact PS4 outsold the Switch last year was nuts. People keep forgetting the PS4 is in its final year and Switch is still young and in its prime. At this time in a console’s lifespan is when sales usually fall off a cliff and yet the PS4 is still going strong even if its sales are slowing down. Just shows how dominant the system is if anything. The fact Sony is still supporting it with several AAA releases towards the end of its life is still outstanding too, most consoles lose1st party support completely at this point in their lives.
I’d argue it’s this traditionally long support that Sony gives their consoles that are the key to their dominance in some ways. Nintendo and MS don’t traditionally support their consoles for as long as Sony does and I think that could be hurting them in the long run especially MS. Strong support towards the end of the PS3’s life is partially what set the stage for Sony’s huge comeback at the beginning of this gen. MS all but abandoned the 360 towards the end of last gen and Nintendo also stopped supporting the Wii in a meaningful way towards the end of its life too while PS3 was getting games like TLOU, let’s hope Nintendo doesn’t abandon the Switch towards the end of its life too (I don’t think they will).
Oh yea, it’s insane the PS4 Slim is still $299 more than 6 years after launching, I forgot that lol. The console is going to have even more legs once Sony hits that $199 sweet spot and below. It’s an incredibly successful generation for Sony any way you look at it, and the PS4 has absolutely dominated it.
Well there's no reason to believe Sony is going to drop the ball on the PS5 from everything we have heard so far and from how they handled the PS4. The main unknown is xbox but from what we have seen from them in the last few years I don't know if that's really going to be enough to convince some to buy a Scarlett.
Everybody knows how it will play out with Sony making PS5 backwards compatible with one of the best selling console of all time. PS5 will sell like hotcakes. Giving more than 100 million people the opportunity to have direct access to their complete PS4 library, will make next gen play out pretty much the same as this gen. If they also push PS Now more to be more comparible to Stadia and Gamepass, that's all extra. Same goes for all their new exclusive next gen games. Their exclusive studio output will be superior for years to come.
sony dominated with the ps1, ps2 and ps4. they royally screwed up everything with 3 and still managed to tie the 360 despite being way more expensive and launching a year later. i think we can safely assume that they will do fine.
The difference between Xbox and Playstation is this gen. All that goodwill that MS had with the 360, they just pissed it away. For me at least it's now not enough if the next Xbox is even on par with PS5, and even that's a pretty damn big if. No, for me to even care about the next Xbox after what they did this gen, they need to go above and beyond, and deliver something truly special. And I just don't see that happening. All signs point to Nextbox being a half-hearted kinda there effort, combined with MS's continued push for digital and the removal of game ownership.Depends on the use of the word dominate. The PS5 is likely to have the largest market share when next gen hits its 5 year mark, but it probably won't sell as much by that point as the PS4 did (around 90 Million), Xbnext should sell more than the XB1 had (~35 Million), and the Switch successor will hit the market in the second or third year, not the 4th like this Switch did, so it should sell more as well.
I think we should expect a 80, 50, 50 (in Millions) market share for the big 3 by holiday 2025. Though the breakdown might happen a bit more like I said previously, since I believe there won't be much of a difference between Xbox and Playstation, and Xbox offers the better services, so a 70, 60, 50 split might happen
You remind me of those guys who don't want to acknowledge Wii as having won against PS3/360 because the goalpost got moved from most hardware sold to "Who had the better software library" which is very subjective...Switch is a portable console that will live most of its life at $200. It's not really in competition with PS5. It's more in competition with your phone. It came out in 2017, 3 years before PS5. Its never getting the 3rd party biggest of budget titles ever. To me the "domination" idea really only implies to direct competition in the highest end Xbox.
Lets define "domination" in gamers terms: the most high budget titles. This is roughly equivalent to the amount of highest quality hours, assuming big budget titles generally provide high entertainment. NOT number of consoles sold. NOT number of games. Mobile would be dominant if those numbers are whats important.
Definitely, I cant wait until sony and ms start actually pitching the consoles to see where the actual customers start to sway.
I got a One X solely because it is the best hardware for multiplats.
Yup. I played 3rd party on ps4 for a year and once I'd done with infamous I was like....these exclusives are terrible (killzone.....what else was out first year on ps4?)
Only idiots thought that. How do you look at PS3 sales matching Xbox 360 by the end of the generation with 1 less year on the market and a higher price tag throughout the generation and think "yea, Sony will be out of the market soon."
Then this entire board is full of idiots, because that was the prevailing belief. Sony struggling financially and Xbox coming in for the kill.
Yea, I read the infamous thread years later and it made no sense to me how people were coming to those conclusions. I joined the "other" place sometime later so I never participated in that thread but it was funny to read.
Yup. I was posting in the other place back then and I couldn't believe in the nonsense I saw in that infamous next-gen prediction thread. The gaming media was also backing that erroneous belief back then too. I'm seeing the same thing sort of happen again this gen, history repeating itself. People still thinking that Sony got to where they were now because of luck and that it's only a matter of time before they lose everything to MS.
XBX sales aren't exactly setting the charts on fire. A lot of people will settle for near-parity at $100 cheaper and the exclusives that PS4 gives them, and sometimes they'll still get the better version like KH3 in spite of the price difference.
i wish you and some more of your kind would have been there at the time, so the discussion would have been far more balanced and with a lot more of foresight. everyone in that thread seemed to be awfully incompetent. i wasn't able to participate as i had no posting rights yet (or i was too stupid to look up my spam folder where the login mail waited for weeks already), but of course i would have told them that the ps4 would clearly outsell the xbox, even on us territory.