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His Dark Materials TV Series |OT| UK - BBC One, Sundays; RoW - HBO, Mondays [See spoiler guide in OP]

Duane

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,880
I just saw the first episode and loved it. I've never read the books nor seen the movie. And I pretty much know nothing about them beyond what I saw in this first episode. I thought it was great, and I didn't think the world building was hard to follow at all.

Actually I may pick up the first book soon (once I finish Kings of the Wyld/Bloody Rose which I just started but can already tell I'm going to blow through).
 

Tagg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,331
Really disappointed in the episode 2 "reveal". It had a lot more impact when it came at the start of the second book.
 

Ithil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,424
Just caught up with episode 2. On its own terms, it was very good. Giving so much time and emphasis to Ruth Wilson definitely paying off.

Can’t help but be a little sad at the early reveal of the window though. I love the way the multiple worlds are revealed in the books, and now that effect will be lost. It’s not bad or anything, just a bit of a shame for me personally.

Also:
Given how willing they’ve been to chop and change things around already, I can’t help but feel their solution to the problem of doing the Mulefa world on a TV budget will be to just not really do it. Alas, they are working with big money constraints so I can’t fault them if that turns out to be the case, but I do so love that sub-plot.
Allusions to it already appear in the intro, they're definitely doing it.
 

Razmos

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,638
The second episode was great, my boyfriend knows nothing about the books or the film and I can see him really getting into it
He was shocked when Mrs Coulters Daemon attacked Pan, and he was stressing out when Lyra was in the study and nearly got caught, he also watched the intro this episode and went "it looks like there are multiple worlds or something, which he then found out to be true.
It's really fun watching him discover all this stuff for the first time. Makes me want to read the books again now that I'm older and supposedly smarter.

My only criticism of this episode is that they didnt explain about the distance humans can be away from their daemons, it was mentioned by Lyra but it didnt really have the impact it should have had in the scene because it's the first you hear of it. If it had been established in a flashback in the first episode or something it would have gone a long way to making the daemon related stuff this episode more interesting
 

MrJohnSherry

Member
Jan 4, 2018
236
The second episode was great, my boyfriend knows nothing about the books or the film and I can see him really getting into it
He was shocked when Mrs Coulters Daemon attacked Pan, and he was stressing out when Lyra was in the study and nearly got caught, he also watched the intro this episode and went "it looks like there are multiple worlds or something, which he then found out to be true.
It's really fun watching him discover all this stuff for the first time. Makes me want to read the books again now that I'm older and supposedly smarter.

My only criticism of this episode is that they didnt explain about the distance humans can be away from their daemons, it was mentioned by Lyra but it didnt really have the impact it should have had in the scene because it's the first you hear of it. If it had been established in a flashback in the first episode or something it would have gone a long way to making the daemon related stuff this episode more interesting
As someone who has never read the books nor watched the movie neither - can you explain the distance thing? When I heard that I was like...what? Why? What happens?
 

Razmos

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,638
As someone who has never read the books nor watched the movie neither - can you explain the distance thing? When I heard that I was like...what? Why? What happens?
Being separated from your daemon causes intense physical pain, daemons have to stay very close to their masters.
There are... certain people with an exception to this
 

Kolibri

Member
Nov 6, 2017
648
Saw episode 2 yesterday, and I'm definitely hooked. The actress playing Lyra does really well, and the constant tension between her and Mrs Coulter was great.
Tbh, when Lyra kicked the compass infrustration, I missed her picking it up again, and I totally thought it was a set up for Mrs Coulter to find it later in the episode (which obviously didn't end up being the case).

Also thanks to everyone being considerate with the spoiler tags for book discussions!

I thought that was amazing!

And yeah, they’re introducing some stuff from the second book early. Makes sense as:

Otherwise Lord Boreal appears briefly in the first series, fucks off for three quarters of it, and then suddenly reappears as a key character. Plus it allows you to introduce the windows early as you say.

Really enjoyed that, shaping up to be an amazing adaptation.
It's really nice that the people who read the books enjoy this series as well. Though I would enjoy it either way, it's nice to know it's a good adaption.
 

FaceHugger

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,299
Saw episode 2 yesterday, and I'm definitely hooked. The actress playing Lyra does really well, and the constant tension between her and Mrs Coulter was great.
Tbh, when Lyra kicked the compass infrustration, I missed her picking it up again, and I totally thought it was a set up for Mrs Coulter to find it later in the episode (which obviously didn't end up being the case).

Also thanks to everyone being considerate with the spoiler tags for book discussions!


It's really nice that the people who read the books enjoy this series as well. Though I would enjoy it either way, it's nice to know it's a good adaption.
She was X-23 / Laura in Logan. I knew that kid had the chops. I even thought she was actually Hispanic she was so convincing.

I cracked a new bottle of top shelf rum. Getting my chili done ready for simmering. Ready for tonight's episode. Is anyone doing a live thread or is there not enough of us for something like that?
 
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Kolibri

Member
Nov 6, 2017
648
She was X-23 / Laura in Logan. I knew that kid had the chops. I even thought she was actually Hispanic she was so convincing.

I cracked a new bottle of top shelf rum. Getting my chili done ready for simmering. Ready for tonight's episode. Is anyone doing a live thread or is there not enough of us for something like that?
Nice, I still have to give Logan a watch sometime.

Aye, that definitely sounds like the way to watch it. Also I'm not sure how many fans this show has, but the thread does not move super fast, so I'm not sure if anyone's doing a live thread. My guess is that posting here is probably your best bet to discuss it.
 

Darlinggirl05

Member
Aug 14, 2019
93
This was another great episode omg, its great im getting into this blind but whew yall werent lying some of the things they talk about are almost incomprehensible, so its a little hard to understand whats really going on. I like dafne keen alot shes very charming and present when im watching the show so it makes me a little iffy that in the upcoming episodes and seasons the "brother" of the first kid that got kidnapped is gonna be around alot, cause he is very meh as an actor and he took me out of some scenes when he delivers his lines, Lyras friend Roger is a MUCH better actor, he is very talented, that scene where he got ignored by Lyra was one of the best in the series hopefully we will see more of him.

As great as this show is i will say the editing can get very choppy and rushed idk whats going on there. Hopefully this is just a symptom of the show literally just starting and this just being the pilot and they get much better as time goes on.

Questions for those that know:
1. What is happening with the daemons, i love Lyras cutie but omg im so confused i thought he could only change his colors now he can become a whole different animal???? Was that a moth or a butterfly?

2: The journalist woman is she dead? Why on earth was her daemon flying around why didnt it just land on her shoulder, also was it a butterfly?? I thought they could only get mammals, does a future character have a fish or a whale? lmao
But honestly tho i dont understand the daemons.

3: I'm guessing Mrs coulter and Lyras dad were together at one point so spoil me is she Lyras mom??

:)
 

Ithil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,424
This was another great episode omg, its great im getting into this blind but whew yall werent lying some of the things they talk about are almost incomprehensible, so its a little hard to understand whats really going on. I like dafne keen alot shes very charming and present when im watching the show so it makes me a little iffy that in the upcoming episodes and seasons the "brother" of the first kid that got kidnapped is gonna be around alot, cause he is very meh as an actor and he took me out of some scenes when he delivers his lines, Lyras friend Roger is a MUCH better actor, he is very talented, that scene where he got ignored by Lyra was one of the best in the series hopefully we will see more of him.

As great as this show is i will say the editing can get very choppy and rushed idk whats going on there. Hopefully this is just a symptom of the show literally just starting and this just being the pilot and they get much better as time goes on.

Questions for those that know:
1. What is happening with the daemons, i love Lyras cutie but omg im so confused i thought he could only change his colors now he can become a whole different animal???? Was that a moth or a butterfly?

2: The journalist woman is she dead? Why on earth was her daemon flying around why didnt it just land on her shoulder, also was it a butterfly?? I thought they could only get mammals, does a future character have a fish or a whale? lmao
But honestly tho i dont understand the daemons.

3: I'm guessing Mrs coulter and Lyras dad were together at one point so spoil me is she Lyras mom??

:)
Children's daemons change animal form at will, they settle on a permanent form around puberty. They can be mostly any animal within reason (you're not going to see elephants or something), including insects or lizards. I'm not certain if she was meant to be dead or just unconscious, but when someone dies, their daemon disappears, so I assume she is not.
And yes, a character is mentioned in the books to have a fish daemon, and they live only at sea and can only come onto the dock or very edge of the coast (luckily that's where they're happiest, hence why it settled on a fish at all).