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British ERA: why do you sometimes pronounce
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I have never heard anybody in the UK refer to their parents as Mama and Papa and I live in the South where you'd expect to hear it. The only exception is Polish children who call their mothers "Mama". My son included as he is half Polish. Oddly, he doesn't call me "Tata" (Polish word for dad) and just calls me "Dad".
My observation on the British thing, as an Irish person, is that most English people will happily call themselves British. So will some (Protestant, conservative) people in Northern Irish, and some (conservative) people in Wales.
Most Welsh people won't, however. No one from Scotland seems to. And more conservative (i.e., nationalist) English people are less likely to do it.
Most Welsh people won't, however. No one from Scotland seems to. And more conservative (i.e., nationalist) English people are less likely to do it.
On this subject... if I'm in the US, would I be better saying I come from the UK or Great Britain?
I appreciate that "England" would have more people know where I'm talking about, but as a Welshman those words will never come out of my mouth.
Well, when this happens with an Irish accent, they render the "th" as a hard "t" ("tree" instead of "three") or even a "d" sound ("dis" and "dat" in Dublin, versus "this" and "that"). This is partly a hangover from the Irish language (what Americans call Gaelic) not having an equivalent sound prior to British colonization. Sadly, like everything else in the U.K. and Ireland, it's heavily bound up in regional and class distinctions. I pronounce my "th," but I also grew up in a middle-class South Dublin family and went to a private school, so I have my own weird linguistic quirks people would find annoying (but I'm not in "roysh" for "right" territory). A linguist in the U.S. once pegged me as Irish because I said "em" instead of "um" when trying to remember something in conversation, which was pretty cool.
Again, though, any linguist would reject the idea that there is any such thing as correct pronunciation.
They'll understand either, but they'll assume you're English. Relatively few people will understand that the U.K. is a complex political entity, and most people won't know that Wales is a part of it.
But hey, that's still better than being Irish and being referred to as a "Brit" all the time.
I usually say I'm from Wales, the country stuck to the side of England.
That's odd to me. I call myself British and I hear it all the time. We are British citizens after all. If I'm talking to someone international it's always British and if I'm talking to someone from the UK I'll say which county I'm from rather than which country.
Getting loads of replies to this is a bit annoying after the thread was bumped lol.
This is not something I can recall hearing amongst people I personally know... ever. It's really strange hearing people say "me and people I know call ourselves british".
Maybe it's down to geography?
I grew up in Surrey and lived most of my adult life in London.
This is not something I can recall hearing amongst people I personally know... ever. It's really strange hearing people say "me and people I know call ourselves british".
Maybe it's down to geography?
I grew up in Surrey and lived most of my adult life in London.
it was actually an old tab from the same argument that I never closed. Self actuating necrobump
Im welsh and one of my buds cousins has the thickest welsh accent ive ever heard.
she pronounces Mammy as Maaaammmeeeeaaaarrrr. Mamear. Its adorable and pretty funny.
she pronounces Mammy as Maaaammmeeeeaaaarrrr. Mamear. Its adorable and pretty funny.
PHONE! And it's a new phone, so I assume it grabbed the archive from that day from iCloud.