Australia coronavirus discussion

Oct 29, 2017
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licensing and load really. We went through it the week before last when a majority started working from home. for example:

For conference calls, not a lot of our people have proper audio setups at home so they wanted to dial in using their phone however there was a fixed number of numbers they could use to dial in with.

Another one for us was connecting to VPN to get on the work network. Connections tanked with the number of people connecting.

A lot of the systems are prepared for some people working from home, not a majority.
Yeah this is all correct. Hopefully some of this stuff can be worked though soon but I’m not feeling confident
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,501
How are your software vendors handling this?

I’m told by my reseller ‘to book now’ for a webinar that’s ‘running out of spots fast’ supposedly for setting up our programs cloud functionality.
 

Antiwhippy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,512
licensing and load really. We went through it the week before last when a majority started working from home. for example:

For conference calls, not a lot of our people have proper audio setups at home so they wanted to dial in using their phone however there was a fixed number of numbers they could use to dial in with.

Another one for us was connecting to VPN to get on the work network. Connections tanked with the number of people connecting.

A lot of the systems are prepared for some people working from home, not a majority.
Huh alright, thanks for clarifying. For myself my work is already mostly cloud based anyway. If anything it's kinda baffling why I even need to come to the office other than not having to use my own personal bandwidth lol.
 

Antiwhippy

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Oct 25, 2017
27,512
Well I got WFH and a 20% paycut, but I think I'll take that over having to deal with centrelink atm. And WFH is going to let me cut down quite a bit on expanses anyway.
 

frizz

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Oct 25, 2017
368
for anyone who asked yesterday, the cruise my parents were on was from royal caribbean, and the ship was called ovation of the seas
 

SABO.

Member
Nov 6, 2017
3,158
yikes, the anxiety around job security is definitely increasing...

Had a friend laid off today via phone and he works in Fund Management/Investment.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,144
VIC, AUSTRALIA
LMAO at Morrison still being able to line up jobs for the boys during this trying time. Should've include Barnaby again for a laugh.

BTW it's clear Morrison got the states to back down on Sunday night to do a slower roll out, lock down will start this Sunday night I bet
 

GeoNeo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
565
Local Council Elections still going ahead in QLD. Yikes! What a bone head move. Fuck your elections just do postal voting for a few more weeks or better yet just postpone the whole thing till we get a better idea how this pandemic is gonna play out. Why QLD government is taking this huge risk is beyond me.

Edit:

1 in 4 COVID-19 cases in WA linked to cruise ships.
 

fulltimepanda

Member
Oct 28, 2017
527
Local Council Elections still going ahead in QLD. Yikes! What a bone head move. Fuck your elections just do postal voting for a few more weeks or better yet just postpone the whole thing till we get a better idea how this pandemic is gonna play out. Why QLD government is taking this huge risk is beyond me.

Edit:

1 in 4 COVID-19 cases in WA linked to cruise ships.
Trying to strike before people can judge them on their actions during this period.
 
Oct 29, 2017
785
Just as I feared no working from home means people are going to be let go / hours cut instead.

They want less people in the office but have cut the number of people with remote access so if that leaves you with nothing meaningful to do your fucked basically.
 

bomma man

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,769
For anyone here that rents the following amendments to our (Tas) tenancy act are being debated now, and will likely be replicated across other jurisdictions in the next few days:

  • No evictions for rent arrears during the “emergency period”
  • Emergency period is 120 but can be extended by the Minister to up to seven months total;
  • Hardship terminations for tenants/landlords affected by Covid19 (currently, unlike other jurisdictions, we have no general hardship provision), upon application and provided it wouldn’t make things worse;
  • Exclusion from having to return the property in the same condition at the end of the tenancy if covid makes it impractical;
  • No inspections whatsoever unless there is an emergency, or urgent or emergency repairs are required. No routine inspections, open homes etc at all.
We’re asking for the eviction moratorium to be broadened, because it’ll be very easy to use another reason as a fig leaf. We also want a moratorium on rent increases.
 

legend166

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,491
How is there such a thing as limited access to remote working?\

I bet if push comes to shove magically they would be able to find a way to accomadate everyone.
As a network engineer who literally just spent the last week trying to drastically expand VPN capacity for a major Australian company, there is nothing magical about it. Even just think about basic networking rules - everyone has to have an IP. But you designed your VPN to only accommodate 30% of staff. Why not just design it for 120% capacity or whatever? Because the licences are really expensive so it would be a huge waste of money. So now you've got to go out and modify the IP pool so you can increase capacity. That means new routing. That means new firewall rules everywhere for those new IPs.
 

Antiwhippy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,512
Liberal senator Eric Abetz, tells Patricia Karvelas on the ABC about the call for the UK’s wage guarantee to be applied to Australia (the unions are banding together to call for up to 80% in wages to be subsidised by the government, to keep employees on) says “I’ve never known a business or a union that does not want some form of government largesse’

So the Government I think is handling this in the right and appropriate manner.
That is, to take it step by step day by day, on the advice that is the best available, be it medical or economic, from our Chief Medical Officers or from the Treasury Department.
Look, I’ve never known a business or a union that does not want some form of government largesse.
What you have to have here is a cool head, practical head and ensure that there will be money to go around at the end of this as well.
We don’t know how long this is going to last for.
Therefore prudence is the best approach and I think our National Cabinet, which, might I adds dominated by Labor, there are five Labor representatives and four Liberal representatives - they have, I think, to their great credit, worked together for the benefit of the makes, coming out with a decision on a daily or 2-daily basis and I that’s what we ought to be doing. Not trying to second guess.
Fuck the liberals.

FUCK THE LIBERALS.

HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY ABLE TO BEAT THE TORIES IN SELFISHNESS.
 

petszk

Member
Dec 20, 2019
1
Apparently I’m the only one that think scomo is doing a pretty ok job at this. Not once have I been confused as to what is being asked of me during these times.


Lol. If you can’t see the difference between how Morrison is handling this vs Trump...
Yeah, I'm with you on Scomo.

He was an utter **** when the bushfires were going on, but he seems to be doing an okay job here.
I haven't done a full 180 on my opinion of him, but he doesn't seem to be bumbling his way around like certain foreign leaders are..
 

Antiwhippy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,512
Yeah, I'm with you on Scomo.

He was an utter **** when the bushfires were going on, but he seems to be doing an okay job here.
I haven't done a full 180 on my opinion of him, but he doesn't seem to be bumbling his way around like certain foreign leaders are..
Liberal senator Eric Abetz, tells Patricia Karvelas on the ABC about the call for the UK’s wage guarantee to be applied to Australia (the unions are banding together to call for up to 80% in wages to be subsidised by the government, to keep employees on) says “I’ve never known a business or a union that does not want some form of government largesse’

So the Government I think is handling this in the right and appropriate manner.
That is, to take it step by step day by day, on the advice that is the best available, be it medical or economic, from our Chief Medical Officers or from the Treasury Department.
Look, I’ve never known a business or a union that does not want some form of government largesse.
What you have to have here is a cool head, practical head and ensure that there will be money to go around at the end of this as well.
We don’t know how long this is going to last for.
Therefore prudence is the best approach and I think our National Cabinet, which, might I adds dominated by Labor, there are five Labor representatives and four Liberal representatives - they have, I think, to their great credit, worked together for the benefit of the makes, coming out with a decision on a daily or 2-daily basis and I that’s what we ought to be doing. Not trying to second guess.
Pushed on the terminology of “government largesse”, in a time of economic crisis, because of a pandemic, Eric Abetz says:

Well, let’s get this into perspective. When businesses are asking for 80% of their wages bill to be covered by the taxpayer, I think that can be seen in that context.
In relation to people seeking to survive, the Government has of course made the very appropriate decisions, in relation to enhancing the payments with not only one-off payments but enhanced regular payments for the next few months or so.
So let’s keep those two separate and of course those outside the Centrelink offices, our hearts go out to them, we feel for them and this is something nobody predicted but the National Cabinet, which consists of ministers and the Prime Minister, are working through this together in a way that I think is a great credit to them all.
 

legend166

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,491
Anyway, just broadly on the handling of this by the government(s) - they've obviously made some pretty big stuff ups. Communication has been a problem (I guarantee if Morrison had his time again he wouldn't have done that whole "I'm still going to the footy!" thing), and the Ruby Princess disaster was, well, a disaster.

But I get what they're doing. Based on the medical advice, if everyone actually complied with the regulations as they are now, the curve would flatten significantly. So if they can do they without causing the huge problems that a complete shutdown cause, then I see why they're trying.

I also think there's this weird expectation of perfection. Government is a mess at the best of times, especially when you come to matters of federal/state jurisdiction and powers. In the middle of a never before seen global pandemic, then yeah there's going to be a lot of bumps. And it is never before seen because the last time this happened the only way you could get from country to country was on a boat.
 

bomma man

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Oct 25, 2017
1,769
Yeah, I'm with you on Scomo.

He was an utter **** when the bushfires were going on, but he seems to be doing an okay job here.
I haven't done a full 180 on my opinion of him, but he doesn't seem to be bumbling his way around like certain foreign leaders are..
$550 a week for someone that loses their job* is pathetic and completely inadequate. That’s not to mention the terrible administration, the mixed messages etc. I’m not an Arden stan like a lot of people, but look at her gov’s response (or even Andrews’s) to see that it could be a lot better. If Boris Johnson’s government is less psycho than yours, you need to do some self reflection.


*Starting in a month, unless their spouse earns more than $48g
 

Antiwhippy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,512
But I get what they're doing. Based on the medical advice, if everyone actually complied with the regulations as they are now, the curve would flatten significantly. So if they can do they without causing the huge problems that a complete shutdown cause, then I see why they're trying.
But what they're doing is causing huge problems either way. They're forcing retailers to stay open because they're absolutely reluctant to hand bailouts which they are going to need anyway because no one is buying anything even if they are opened!

So right now retailers are forced to stand people down and force them through the inefficient centrelink system in order to keep operating instead of going into stasis for awhile as the goverment pay to keep people's wages going.
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
National Update / 25 of March 2020 as of 5pm
  • As of the 25th of March, 12am, these businesses are not allowed to operate.
    • Beauty therapy, tanning, waxing, nail salons and tattoo parlours
    • Spas and massage parlours — this doesn't include health-related services such as physiotherapy and allied-health services.
    • Real estate auctions and open house inspections
    • Amusement parks and arcades
    • Indoor and outdoor play centres
    • Gyms, health clubs, fitness centres, yoga, barre, spin facilities, saunas, wellness centres and community and recreation centres
    • Public swimming pools
    • Galleries, museums, national institutions, historic sites, libraries, community centres
    • Auction houses
    • Cinemas
    • Nightclubs
    • Casinos, gaming or gambling venues
    • Outdoor and indoor markets — this doesn't include food markets
    • Places of worship
      • Restaurants and food courts are still allowed to operate, however they are only allowed to serve takeout only.
  • All elective surgeries that are not in Category 1 or urgent Category 2 will now be suspended.
  • As of 25th of March, 12pm, no Australians are allowed to travel overseas unless exceptional circumstances arise.
  • Virgin Airlines to cut domestic flights by 90% and TigerAir to cut domestic flights by 100%.

State and Territories Update / 25 of March 2020 as of 5pm AEDT.

ACT

Territory border: Open
  • Six flights have been confirmed to have cases of Coronavirus as reported by Health ACT.
    • QF8412 (Emirates) | Dubai - Sydney (17th of March departure, 18th of March arrival)
    • QF1473 (Qantas) | Sydney - Canberra (18th of March departure, 18th of March arrival)
    • QF1476 (Qantas) | Sydney - Canberra (20th of March departure, 20th of March arrival)
    • BA15 (British Airways) | London - Singapore - Sydney (18th of March departure, 20th of March arrival)
    • QF7406 (Emirates) | Dubai - Melbourne (21st of March departure, 22nd of March arrival)
    • BA814 (Qantas) | Melbourne - Canberra (22nd of March departure, 22nd of March arrival)
  • Passengers on the Number 31 bus from Dickson Interchange to Kalsen, departing Dickson at 3:50pm (scheduled for 3:33pm) should self quarantine until 31st of March and contact the Communicable Disease Control Section of ACT Health on 5124 9213.
  • Access Canberra will no longer take cash.
  • Schooling:
    • Pre-school and public schools are now online (pupil-free days). Schools are not open. Holidays stay for 10th of April.
    • Edit: Public schools are now online (pupil-free days). Schools are open for students that cannot stay at home. Holidays stay for 10th of April.
    • Early Childhood services like Daycare still remain open.
NSW
State border: Open
  • State Police now given powers to hand out on-the-spot fines for anyone not following social-distancing laws. $1000 for individuals, $5000 for businesses.
  • Over 1000 cases reported in NSW.
  • USyd has reported that coronavirus spread could be stalled by July.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents are advised to keep students at home if they can. No direct teacher to student contact, all learning will be transitioned online.
QLD
State border: Closed. All non-essential travel blocked. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Queensland. Individuals working at State borders excluded from ban via permit. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • QLD Local Council elections to go ahead this weekend, no more than 100 individuals allowed in a voting booth at once.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
NT
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Northern Territory.
  • All correctional service visits in NT suspended.
  • Currently lowest reported case state and territory with six confirmed.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
VIC
State border: Open
  • 500 State Police in a taskforce checking on individuals who are to self isolate as well as enforcing social distancing laws.
  • Horse racing has been suspended.
  • Victoria has retracted a number of COVID-19 cases due to mistakes.
  • "There will be a Stage Three." - Daniel Andrews has announced in a conference today.
  • All V/LINE services to South Australia will stop at the border of Victoria and South Australia.
SA
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in South Australia. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • Two students in UniSA tested positive to Coronavirus.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to, students that stay at home will use My Learning SA.
WA
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Western Australia. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • Purchase of alcohol limits applied from 26th of March, 10AM per day:
    • Three bottles of wine.
    • One carton of beer, cider or pre-mix spirits.
    • One litre of spirits.
    • One litre of fortified wine.
  • Rottnest Island closed for quarantine. Will be redirecting Vasco de Gama to Rottnest Island for mass quarantine.
  • COVID-19 testing criteria expands. Individuals can now test for COVID-19 if:
    • They have been in an area of a large community spread of COVID-19.
    • The testing of other settings such as workplaces where outbreaks have occurred.
    • Testing of high risk facilities like: aged care facilities, remote and rural areas, detention centres, boarding schools and military barracks, where there is at least two cases of respiratory illness
    • The testing of any cruise ship passenger presenting with symptoms who has disembarked within 14 days — even those who have just travelled in domestic waters
  • WA Bus Driver potentially infected 100s of passengers with Coronavirus.The routes are 506, 507, 509, 517, 178, 999 527 and 537.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
TAS
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Tasmania. Essential jobs must self isolate, if no accomodation is provided, the Government will provide free of charge.
  • Spirit of Tasmania now banned.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools will close early. Holidays have been extended from April 6th to Term 2. Term 2 expected to be online.

An infographic will be up tonight.
 
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eZipsis

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
442
Melbourne, Australia
So my Mum has been in Brisbane at my brothers for the past month. She is due to fly home to Melbourne this Saturday (despite my advice to return much earlier).

My brother who lives with her (but stays the majority of his time at his girlfriends house) is refusing to pick her up from the airport.

She will have to self isolate yeah? What about if I were to pick her, would I have to self isolate too? I'll just be driving her from the airport to Ferntree Gully, then I'll return home on the otherside of the city.

Can she even get a taxi or Uber? I'm not sure how it works in regards to that. It will probably change by Saturday anyway.
 

i_am_ben

Member
Oct 27, 2017
927
So my Mum has been in Brisbane at my brothers for the past month. She is due to fly home to Melbourne this Saturday (despite my advice to return much earlier).

My brother who lives with her (but stays the majority of his time at his girlfriends house) is refusing to pick her up from the airport.

She will have to self isolate yeah? What about if I were to pick her, would I have to self isolate too? I'll just be driving her from the airport to Ferntree Gully, then I'll return home on the otherside of the city.

Can she even get a taxi or Uber? I'm not sure how it works in regards to that. It will probably change by Saturday anyway.
As far as I am aware, Victoria is not making people self-isolate if they have only traveled domestically.

That is of course unless they show symptoms, in which case she should self-isolate (but that goes for everyone)
 

Last_colossi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,735
Australia
QLD Local Council elections to go ahead this weekend, no more than 100 individuals allowed in a voting booth at once.
Yeah fuck that, they should be delaying the voting another 3 months and letting all voters mail vote or phone vote. Everyone is social distancing at the moment and they want to throw us into an area with 100 other people?
 

lint2015

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,696
For anyone here that rents the following amendments to our (Tas) tenancy act are being debated now, and will likely be replicated across other jurisdictions in the next few days:
  • Exclusion from having to return the property in the same condition at the end of the tenancy if covid makes it impractical;
We’re asking for the eviction moratorium to be broadened, because it’ll be very easy to use another reason as a fig leaf. We also want a moratorium on rent increases.
In what situation would COVID-19 make returning a property in the same condition at the end of a tenancy impractical? Does it make people shit on the walls?
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
She will have to self isolate yeah? What about if I were to pick her, would I have to self isolate too? I'll just be driving her from the airport to Ferntree Gully, then I'll return home on the otherside of the city.
It is not enforceable for her to self isolate as Victoria currently has no domestic border restrictions. However it is strongly recommended that you do so.

Can she even get a taxi or Uber? I'm not sure how it works in regards to that. It will probably change by Saturday anyway.
Taxis, Rideshares and Public Transport are considered essential services and will stay open until further notice.
 

Thordawgg

Member
Nov 5, 2017
469
National Update / 25 of March 2020 as of 5pm
  • As of the 25th of March, 12am, these businesses are not allowed to operate.
    • Beauty therapy, tanning, waxing, nail salons and tattoo parlours
    • Spas and massage parlours — this doesn't include health-related services such as physiotherapy and allied-health services.
    • Real estate auctions and open house inspections
    • Amusement parks and arcades
    • Indoor and outdoor play centres
    • Gyms, health clubs, fitness centres, yoga, barre, spin facilities, saunas, wellness centres and community and recreation centres
    • Public swimming pools
    • Galleries, museums, national institutions, historic sites, libraries, community centres
    • Auction houses
    • Cinemas
    • Nightclubs
    • Casinos, gaming or gambling venues
    • Outdoor and indoor markets — this doesn't include food markets
    • Places of worship
      • Restaurants and food courts are still allowed to operate, however they are only allowed to serve takeout only.
  • All elective surgeries that are not in Category 1 or urgent Category 2 will now be suspended.
  • As of 25th of March, 12pm, no Australians are allowed to travel overseas unless exceptional circumstances arise.
  • Virgin Airlines to cut domestic flights by 90% and TigerAir to cut domestic flights by 100%.

State and Territories Update / 25 of March 2020 as of 5pm AEDT.

ACT

Territory border: Open
  • Six flights have been confirmed to have cases of Coronavirus as reported by Health ACT.
    • QF8412 (Emirates) | Dubai - Sydney (17th of March departure, 18th of March arrival)
    • QF1473 (Qantas) | Sydney - Canberra (18th of March departure, 18th of March arrival)
    • QF1476 (Qantas) | Sydney - Canberra (20th of March departure, 20th of March arrival)
    • BA15 (British Airways) | London - Singapore - Sydney (18th of March departure, 20th of March arrival)
    • QF7406 (Emirates) | Dubai - Melbourne (21st of March departure, 22nd of March arrival)
    • BA814 (Qantas) | Melbourne - Canberra (22nd of March departure, 22nd of March arrival)
  • Passengers on the Number 31 bus from Dickson Interchange to Kalsen, departing Dickson at 3:50pm (scheduled for 3:33pm) should self quarantine until 31st of March and contact the Communicable Disease Control Section of ACT Health on 5124 9213.
  • Access Canberra will no longer take cash.
  • Schooling:
    • Pre-school and public schools are now online (pupil-free days). Schools are not open. Holidays stay for 10th of April.
    • Early Childhood services like Daycare still remain open.
NSW
State border: Open
  • State Police now given powers to hand out on-the-spot fines for anyone not following social-distancing laws. $1000 for individuals, $5000 for businesses.
  • Over 1000 cases reported in NSW.
  • USyd has reported that coronavirus spread could be stalled by July.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents are advised to keep students at home if they can. No direct teacher to student contact, all learning will be transitioned online.
QLD
State border: Closed. All non-essential travel blocked. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Queensland. Individuals working at State borders excluded from ban via permit. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • QLD Local Council elections to go ahead this weekend, no more than 100 individuals allowed in a voting booth at once.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
NT
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Northern Territory.
  • All correctional service visits in NT suspended.
  • Currently lowest reported case state and territory with six confirmed.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
VIC
State border: Open
  • 500 State Police in a taskforce checking on individuals who are to self isolate as well as enforcing social distancing laws.
  • Horse racing has been suspended.
  • Victoria has retracted a number of COVID-19 cases due to mistakes.
  • "There will be a Stage Three." - Daniel Andrews has announced in a conference today.
  • All V/LINE services to South Australia will stop at the border of Victoria and South Australia.
SA
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in South Australia. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • Two students in UniSA tested positive to Coronavirus.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to, students that stay at home will use My Learning SA.
WA
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Western Australia. Exceptions for self-isolation apply for essential services.
  • Purchase of alcohol limits applied from 26th of March, 10AM per day:
    • Three bottles of wine.
    • One carton of beer, cider or pre-mix spirits.
    • One litre of spirits.
    • One litre of fortified wine.
  • Rottnest Island closed for quarantine. Will be redirecting Vasco de Gama to Rottnest Island for mass quarantine.
  • COVID-19 testing criteria expands. Individuals can now test for COVID-19 if:
    • They have been in an area of a large community spread of COVID-19.
    • The testing of other settings such as workplaces where outbreaks have occurred.
    • Testing of high risk facilities like: aged care facilities, remote and rural areas, detention centres, boarding schools and military barracks, where there is at least two cases of respiratory illness
    • The testing of any cruise ship passenger presenting with symptoms who has disembarked within 14 days — even those who have just travelled in domestic waters
  • WA Bus Driver potentially infected 100s of passengers with Coronavirus.The routes are 506, 507, 509, 517, 178, 999 527 and 537.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools remain open. Parents can keep their students at home if they decide to.
TAS
State border: Closed. Must have 14 day quarantine upon arrival in Tasmania. Essential jobs must self isolate, if no accomodation is provided, the Government will provide free of charge.
  • Spirit of Tasmania now banned.
  • Schooling:
    • Public schools will close early. Holidays have been extended from April 6th to Term 2. Term 2 expected to be online.

An infographic will be up tonight.

Thanks for this info, may I ask what source you use so my family is more likely to take this info seriously?
 

Grassy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
408
just had our work update. Construction somehow classed as an essential service so we're staying open. I'd understand some core teams staying open as we do have operations & maintenance work but how is continued work at this time of a road upgrade essential lmao.

It all does come back to trying to ease the economy, what a load of wank. Putting money before lives. The faster the gov decides to get off it's ass and announce proper shutdowns the better. What could have blown over in one month has been extended to three and no doubt will be extended to 6+.
Yep, the construction industry is flying under the radar and I have no idea why, we should've been shutting down job-sites a week or so ago. It seems insane we're trying to push through this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,501
If you or someone you know is flying domestically, kindly tell them to adhere to any and all instructions they are given the moment they get their arse out of that plane seat.

I'm hearing some wild stories from those who have to risk their lives coming into contact with these people now that the airports are beginning their processes.
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
Unscheduled National cabinet meeting to happen tonight. No more updates expected for today.
Victoria expected to go into Stage 3 closures within this week or next week.

Edited and revised.
 
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Shandy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
294
it's okay guys, the $550/fortnight supplement was expanded to include austudy. i will single-handedly save the country with my profligate spending
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
Minor correction: Schools are open for children whose parents are required to work. Children will not be turned away from school.

Source.
Thanks for that, I have revised the infographic and have revised the state summary.

Unscheduled National cabinet meeting to happen tonight. No more updates expected for today.
Victoria expected to go into Stage 3 closures within this week or next week.

Edited and revised.
Schooling:
  • Pre-school and public schools are now online (pupil-free days). Schools are not open. Holidays stay for 10th of April.
  • Edit: Public schools are now online (pupil-free days). Schools are open for students that cannot stay at home. Holidays stay for 10th of April.
  • Early Childhood services like Daycare still remain open.
 

laoni

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,245
Relying on the data of the Department of Health website:

About an hour ago, ABC reported on it, it's on the live feed.



Tasmania usually reports in the night and ABC picks it up, before they do the full announcement and update the next morning
 

laoni

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,245
Will update with the latest numbers tomorrow then. I wanna make sure everything is confirmed confirmed bc states can backtrack (Victoria).
All good!


Here's the story on the full details for each case fromour Public Health
 

Kyser73

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,789
QLD, Australia
our company just moved to 90% WFH - so that’s 1200 contact centre staff (which includes the QA & call recording systems for legal compliance) + ~450 support & services. Our IT team turned this around in 20 days, which is fucking incredible.

The kids’ school emailed today saying unless you’re an essential worker or absolutely cannot WFH or not attend work, keep kids at home so they can focus on supporting essential workers & kidsfor who school is a safe space from their home life.

I would imagine similar messages are going out from other QLD schools too.
 

SleepSmasher

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Oct 27, 2017
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Australia
$550 a week for someone that loses their job* is pathetic and completely inadequate. That’s not to mention the terrible administration, the mixed messages etc. I’m not an Arden stan like a lot of people, but look at her gov’s response (or even Andrews’s) to see that it could be a lot better. If Boris Johnson’s government is less psycho than yours, you need to do some self reflection.


*Starting in a month, unless their spouse earns more than $48g
Pathetic? You should probably look at what other countries are doing regarding that.

$2K a month is reasonable enough for a single person to pay for rent and food. Since most families usually have 2 sources of income, you're possibly looking at $4K / month for, at minimum, 2 people.
Unless you want to save for a PS5 or buy a VR headset, this should keep your head above water well enough for the duration of this crisis, unless you're a father of 4 kids.
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
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$550 a week for someone that loses their job* is pathetic and completely inadequate. That’s not to mention the terrible administration, the mixed messages etc. I’m not an Arden stan like a lot of people, but look at her gov’s response (or even Andrews’s) to see that it could be a lot better. If Boris Johnson’s government is less psycho than yours, you need to do some self reflection.


*Starting in a month, unless their spouse earns more than $48g
$550 a week is amazing considering the conditions people on Newstart were on. Gurl Singapore ain't giving free change, last I heard.
 

bomma man

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pathetic? You should probably look at what other countries are doing regarding that.

$2K a month is reasonable enough for a single person to pay for rent and food. Since most families usually have 2 sources of income, you're possibly looking at $4K / month for, at minimum, 2 people.
Unless you want to save for a PS5 or buy a VR headset, this should keep your head above water well enough for the duration of this crisis, unless you're a father of 4 kids.
It’s around half the median wage, and the median rent in Hobart, Melbourne and Sydney is around $450-$550 a week. The minimum wage is 50% more, and still isn’t considered a living wage.

Don’t give me the condescending poor people can’t manage their money and have too many kids stuff, thanks.
 

언이라브

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
Supermarkets and Pharmacies in NSW now given the green light to undertake 24 hour trading, seven days a week.

New Coronavirus testing guidelines for national, follows WA.

There is a now new category called "suspect cases".

Under the changes you can be tested if two or more other people test positive in an aged care facility, military setting, boarding school, prison, detention centre, remote Indigenous community or somewhere else where there has been an outbreak.

It is now at the GP or clinician's discretion to test you if you have symptoms of Covid-19 in a geographical areas where there is a higher risk of community transmission. In short, that's an area where more people are testing positive.

Furthermore healthcare, aged care and residential care workers can now get a test if they have a fever or respiratory illness.

And finally, if you have been admitted to hospital with a fever and respiratory symptoms you can get a test for coronavirus.
 

i_am_ben

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Oct 27, 2017
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unfortunately for the government and Australia, Centrelink is so incredibly confusing that no one can tell if the Government's package is good or not
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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Where are you guys getting $550 a week from? Isn’t it $550 a fortnight?
Yes, the supplement itself is $550 a fortnight, but it's on top of what you get for payments. So if you're getting the maximum rate of jobseeker, you're getting over $1100 a fortnight. If you're getting a lower rate of Jobseeker, then it's whatever you're getting for Jobseeker + $550.

Being on Jobseeker though gives you access to a number of other payments, things like Rental Assistance which is another like, $138 max a fortnight? I think that's what they said the current rate is, so your assistance could be higher. And then there's the payment being extended to Austudy/Abstudy, which can pair with things like disability pension and the rent assistance again, so, the rate of payment for each individual person receiving the supplement is going to be very variable.

Except that $550, that $550 you will get even if you only hypothetically, got 1c of the payments that the supplemennt is valid for